Concise Minutes - Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee


Meeting Venue:

Video Conference via Zoom

Meeting date: Thursday, 12 May 2022

Meeting time: 09.00 - 13.10
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/12845


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Attendance

Category

Names

Members of the Senedd:

Mark Isherwood MS (Chair)

Natasha Asghar MS

Peredur Owen Griffiths MS (In place of Rhys ab Owen MS)

Mike Hedges MS

Witnesses:

Maria Bell, Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)

Dr Andrew Goodall, Welsh Government

Heléna Herklots, Older People's Commissioner for Wales

Dave Street, Association of Directors of Social Services (ADSS)

Audit Wales:

Adrian Crompton (Auditor General for Wales)

Matthew Mortlock

Committee Staff:

Fay Bowen (Clerk)

Owain Davies (Second Clerk)

Elizabeth Foster (Deputy Clerk)

 

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1       Introductions, apologies and substitutions

1.1        The Chair welcomed the Members to the meeting and noted Rhys ab Owen MS’s election to the Committee on 10 May in place of Cefin Campbell MS.

1.2        Apologies were received from Rhys ab Owen MS and Rhianon Passmore MS. Peredur Owen Griffiths MS attended as a substitute for Rhys ab Owen MS.

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2       Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 3

2.1 The Committee received evidence from Maria Bell from the Welsh Local Government Association and Dave Street from the Association of Directors of Social Services.

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3       Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 4

3.1 The Committee received evidence from Helena Herklots, the Older People’s Commissioner for Wales.

3.2 After question one the Chair temporarily left the meeting. The Clerk asked for nominations for a temporary Chair under SO 17.22. Peredur Owen Griffiths MS nominated Natasha Asghar MS, which was endorsed by the Committee.

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4       Scrutiny of public administration: Evidence session

4.1 The Committee received evidence from Dr Andrew Goodall, Permanent Secretary as part of its Scrutiny of Public Administration.

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5       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following item of business:

5.1 The motion was agreed.

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6       Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Consideration of the evidence received

6.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.

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7       Scrutiny of public administration: Consideration of the evidence received

7.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.

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